Plea for help and some fangirly flailings

[redorchids]

Crossposted in some places because I am getting a little desperate and need all the help I can get.

So, I finished my bbb (and did the obvious celebratory dance), but... no title. I've been going crazy about this for days and still... nothing.

It's a bit tricky. See, this started out as one story. Now it's a trilogy with three perfectly parallel stories, seen from different POV's. I'm only submitting one part for this year's bigbang though. Each story is independent of the others--my plan is that once you have all three, the effect will be greater than the sum of the parts (little details in story one will have a much bigger impact on the characters in story two, and so on).

And I want the same thing for the titles: three different ones that fit each of the stories and that, when put together, will mean something more. Sort of like chocolate, marshmellows and caramel nuts. All really good on their own. Mix them and you have epic rocky road-ness. So, that's what I need, a rocky road title threesome. ghrargalargh.

Anyone want to help?


My working title for this story is simply "Bandom CSI," which kinds of gives you the most important story information. It's an AU where FOB + Panic are working as CSI's in the setting of CSI Las Vegas. The characters are loosely (very loosely) mapped on the original CSI cast--Ryan is Grissom, Brendon is Sara, Jon Warrick, Spencer Catherine, Pete Jim Brass, Zack some kind of cross between Hodges and Greg, Andy is the coroner, and so on. Patrick is also working in the lab (audio tech).

Basic plot is that there is a serial killer on the loose, who's killing people and dressing them up as angels on church altars. That's about 50% of each story. The rest of the focus is on the pairing in question. Each of the three stories will have one main pairing, and the other two will be background, which will then shift when you move to the next story. The one I'm submitting for bigbang is the Peterick story (background Ryden and Joncer). It's all about secret love, "love is patient" and "true love waits." It's also sneaky, funny and pretty darn hot. bb!patrick (ergo the secrecy, Patrick is 16 when he and Pete meet.) is pretty good at getting what he wants.

Title should (ideally):

- Tie in with the CSI theme
- Tie in with the case in question (angels, virtues, murder, faith)
- Tie in with the Peterick love story (patience, love, secrecy, being your own little world)

Also, I would love for it to have some kind of literary or theological base. And, as mentioned before, be a part of some kind of holy trinity of titles in an epic, rocky road kind of way. (I'm thinking three lines from a poem maybe? Or three lines from a Bible passage?)

So, yeah. Pretty tricky. Anyone who has any ideas? I will credit you and love you forever. ♥


On a happier note: the companion vid to this is turning out so epic, guys, you just can't believe. I chucked crappy, crappy Window's Movie Maker out the window and got myself a copy of Sony Vegas. Completely in love. It is EONS better than movie maker and easy enough to use that I feel pretty savvy with it already after less than a day. Plus, it has EVERYTHING. Layers? check. A million transitions and effects? check. No stupid bug that moves your clips forward if you delete something in the middle of your vid? check, check, check. It's epic, you guys. Can't wait to show you the results. (Which is why I need a title, dammit! Having the opening credits say "[WORKING TITLE]" is just... fail. So bring out your old notes from English lit. I'm thinking Oscar Wilde, maybe? Or really, anyone you can come up with. :-D)

Comments

[moku-youbi.livejournal.com]

So, Milton came to mind immediately when I read this. Without knowing a lot more about the fic, I couldn't say, but I could give you some quotes from Paradise Lost that might fit, given what you've said. You could split up one quote into three parts, or use individual quotes, or something like that. IDK.
In particular, in regards to the Peterick love story, is the quote the angels tell Adam and Eve, when they are forced to leave the Garden of Eden,
"then wilt thou not be loth
To leave this Paradise, but shalt possess
A Paradise within thee, happier far."
Maybe something like "A Paradise Within Thee" IDK. Also, in close relation to Adam and Eve being cast out, there is the warning they are given,
"And govern well thy appetite, lest Sin
Surprise thee, and her black attendant Death"
and
"Heaven is for thee too high
To know what passes there; be lowly wise:
Think only what concerns thee, and thy being;
Dream not of other worlds..."

You could take different parts from each of those.

The famous "Better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven" comes from Satan's speech in book on, but you might find that too overused. If so, there's also Satan's Logic, "The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven."

My Muse is partial to Danté's work, and when I told her about this, she suggested something from La Vita Nuova. She says the ideas of angels, demons, death and secret love all fit in quite well, but I've only read selections of it, so I can't say for certain. Here's a link to a translation of it, with the poems:
http://www.adkline.freeuk.com/TheNewLifeI.htm#_Toc88709630
In particular, the one beginning "Death the villain, enemy of pity," is a cool one.

Let me dig around in Dante a bit more for you. Or I could go to the Bible direct, but I try to avoid that...

[redorchids.livejournal.com]

Lots of really good ideas. Thank you so much. Will go google these now. :-D

[moku-youbi.livejournal.com]

Oh, also, this.
She ruled in beauty o'er this heart of mine,
A noble lady in a humble home,
And now her time for heavenly bliss has come,
'Tis I am mortal proved, and she divine.
The soul that all its blessings must resign,
And love whose light no more on earth finds room,
Might rend the rocks with pity for their doom,
Yet none their sorrows can in words enshrine;
They weep within my heart; and ears are deaf
Save mine alone, and I am crushed with care,
And naught remains to me save mournful breath.
Assuredly but dust and shade we are,
Assuredly desire is blind and brief,
Assuredly its hope but ends in death.

[redorchids.livejournal.com]

Very pretty. Where is that from? Also Milton?

[moku-youbi.livejournal.com]

Oh, sorry. I lose at life.
That was a Petrarchian sonnet. As is this one, which might do something for you. I thought it was fitting as I often misread Petrarch as Peterick. *shrugs*

I find no peace, and have no arms for war,
and fear and hope, and burn and yet I freeze,
and fly to heaven, lying on earth's floor,
and nothing hold, and all the world I seize.

My jailer opens not, nor locks the door,
nor binds me to hear, nor will loose my ties;
Love kills me not, nor breaks the chains I wear,
nor wants me living, nor will grant me ease.

I have no tongue, and shout; eyeless, I see;
I long to perish, and I beg for aid;
I love another, and myself I hate.

Weeping I laugh, I feed on misery,
by death and life so equally dismayed:
for you, my lady, am I in this state.

[redorchids.livejournal.com]

I obviously need to brush up on my Latin poets.
This is completely gorgeous.

[scoradh.livejournal.com]

Idk anything about CSI, but the ranks of angels came to mine - you know, seraphs, cerubims, etc? But it sounds like you got a bunch of ideas already. ;D

[redorchids.livejournal.com]

You know, I actually went and looked up all the different angels' names and what they represent. So now, I have a whole list of weird things like "Uzziel" and "Soqued Hozi"

I'm thinking I want a short title though. Right now, I'm browsing through some sonnets for inspiration. :-)

[karluvmost.livejournal.com]

I have no idea about the title, but I do so want to read this. You always make your fics more than just a fic, like the choose-your-own-story, it's so great. :)

[redorchids.livejournal.com]

:-D Thanks, bb. I really needed to hear nice things like that today. (work sucked ass as usual. urgh)

[karluvmost.livejournal.com]

Where do you work?

[redorchids.livejournal.com]

in hell, masquerading as a logistics company. only three more weeks now though. thank god. still. it's another twelve days when i just want to go home and die. i'm not looking forward to it.

[karluvmost.livejournal.com]

It'll be over soon enough. *hugs*